Pam Laricchia interviews Mulberry co-founder, Grace Koelma

I was honoured to be recently interviewed by long-time unschooler and author Pam Laricchia on her Exploring Unschooling podcast. 

Pam and I chat about how my family recently took the leap in renting out our house, selling (almost) everything we own and are preparing to take off on full-time slow travel around the world in 2017.

The discussion also covers topics like:

  • how attachment parenting flows naturally into child-led learning
  • how home learning truly starts from zero, not 5 years of age
  • busting a few homeschooling myths, like homeschool-helicopter parenting
  • talking to cynical relatives or a spouse about homeschooling
  • the fairly new concept of childism
  • and a little bit on how and why the Mulberry community got started

I hope you enjoy the podcast, and please let me know if any of the topics we discussed resonate with you. And the interview is also available as a transcript, if you prefer to read instead of listen.

We're hoping to chat to Pam later in the month, so keep an eye out for that interview, it will be gold. 🙂

Happy listening!

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Grace Koelma


Grace is a wife, mum to 1-year-old Leo, and editor of Mulberry Magazine. She believes that home educating starts from 0 not 6 years, but is glad not to have to worry about registration... yet! You can find her sharing snippets of her love of real food, picture books and homeschool on Instagram at @littlesoulfires